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Post by Anne on Nov 6, 2012 12:53:33 GMT -5
First off, I want to state Congrats to the two of you for once again getting yourself to the end. To win it once is pretty big, but to win it twice clearly shows someone is really making a great case for themselves being the best person to ever play in the Horror Series.
I think both of you feel that I was pretty open, honest, and straight forward with both of you. I'm not entirely sure if I received the same in return, but I guess thats what this Final Tribal Council is all about, to clear the air and find out what really was going on behind the scenes!
I want to start off with Katniss tonight since you and I have gone way back since the beginning of this game. I appreciated you choosing me to be on your tribe first. I also appreciated you not voting for me to leave the first time I exited this game. So you have shown a good amount of loyalty to me, but during the later part of the game it's not entirely clear how loyal you really were.
So my questions to you are did you vote for me to leave the round I left and also would you have honored our Final 2 deal?
Now to you Hannah. I think you played a very good social game. I think that you were a threat that no one really ever tried to take out. You were really on top of everything it seemed, but I'm also not a fan of people who kinda make deals with everyone to stick around. It just seems like a very easy game to play when you have everyone believing you have their best interest at heart.
So my question to you is do you feel you betrayed anyone on this Jury and is there something you did in this game that you felt bad about or regret?
Again I want to reiterate that I really am looking for honest and straight forward answers. I think I deserve it form the two of you and my vote is completely based on everything you say here tonight not just how you answer my own personal question.
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Post by Hanna on Nov 6, 2012 23:05:39 GMT -5
Making deals with everyone usually is not the way I play the game. I'm usually on the outs and I make my moves to change things up a bit like in my original season. But this time, it was different. We "merged" with nearly 14 people, so it's not like 9 people where you make deals with just a few and it's enough to have the numbers. It was 14, three tribes, very individual game. With 14, that's more people to gel with and way easier to end up with more than one alliance if you're playing the social game. And I want to point out I wasn't the only one to play that game. It's just that for other people, it simply backfired because they couldn't keep everything together and they made the deals with the wrong people. I knew who I could trust and who I could not. This game was wayyy more of a puzzle than a lame and dull game of Side A vs Side B. We can tell by the vote tallying we had this season: Final 14: 5-5-4 Final 12: 8-3-2 Final 11: 8-2-2 Final 10: (5)-2-2-1 Final 9: 4-3-3-2 Final 8: 3-3-(2) Final 7: 3-2-2 Final 6: 3-(2)-1 Final 5: 3-2 Final 4: 2-2 Oh yes, there are. I think it was more by the end of the game when I had decided to vote out Beth over Billie/Katniss. I was close to her at the beginning of the merge and I just couldn't believe I was really writing her name down at that moment. I really wasn't sure how she would take it but I really felt like I had more loyalty to the other two. I'm not a fan of sad smiles and drawing on votes but hers deserved a sad smile. She was a really nice person and she kind of trusted me, so that made me feel bad. The vote that frustrated me the most is the round Billie left. I think I was even more pissed than Billie herself. I really wanted both her and Katniss to stay, I both wanted them in the finales, and it never crossed my mind once that I would eventually have to vote her out. I was upset enough that I was giving her ideas on how to make Claire give up immunity so that she would "play in Billie's place in the tie-breaker" and then we screw her. I doubt that would of worked, but that just shows I didn't want her to go at all. When Arthur gave me his idol the tribal council Alice left (in case he would be gone), I told him I would give it back to him after it. And that's what I did, I gave it back to him, but I also told him he was the vote and that he had to play it. But he didn't. I shouldn't have sticked to my word, I should of kept it and played it on him. Another thing I regret, maybe to have let Katniss talk to Ray about voting out Claire when I had a feeling it was a bad idea, but I had no idea they had an idol on them so I let it go. But if I could go back in time I would of done all I could to stop that lol! That turned evil Claire into likable underdog Claire. All the deals she made backfired on her. So that's also another example of it's not necessarly easy to just make deals with everyone, Claire did the same and she ended up on her own after we shared notes. It's good to make deals, but you must keep them together and anyone can decide from one round to another to turn against you and betray you. Did not really want it to happen to me... I might add a few things depending on what's being said..
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Post by Katniss on Nov 7, 2012 14:51:47 GMT -5
my questions to you are did you vote for me to leave the round I left and also would you have honored our Final 2 deal?
Hey Ann. First I want to thank you for your loyalty to me. It shows that I was entirely justified in picking you for my tribe first. Not only did you help us tremendously in those challenges, but in you, I knew I had someone that I trusted, and could go a long way with, which makes what I am about to say even harder.
When I made that deal with you, I was absolutely 10000 percent dedicated to it. In my mind, it was you and me. I had no intention on breaking it. But then, despite my best efforts, you went home the first time and since I voted for you, I had to do my best to try and spin it to the others that you and I were not together. Though, as I found out later, it did no good since from what I heard, most people knew about our deal anyway.
When you came back into the game on another tribe, I had already made back up plans and started making the deals with Claire and Hannah. So I made a choice, and it was to stick with them. I could have very easily gone to you, plotted, drew some people in, and perhaps this game would have gone very differently. But I made my choice, and if I pay for it by losing your vote, then that is my fault. So yes, I did vote for you the second time around. I was already deep into my winners alliance, and since you were not a part of that, you were voted out. I could have changed that, but I didn't. I'm sorry, but I am being honest with you.
Best of luck with your vote. And again, I am sorry.
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Post by Hanna on Nov 7, 2012 17:50:40 GMT -5
And also since Alice's question is to stab our final two, I would just like to add that Katniss was already plotting against you the minute you came back into the game. Before that Claire even uses her idol, as the plan was to get you and Claire home both out at the very same time (we thought that because a Horror Story would go you would go as well but it looks like your "task" was finished by that time... ) And she targeted you before this. I just want that to be thrown out not just to be mean but I don't want her to have your vote with information missing. Good Luck with your vote, you have all the information you need.
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